Hi Scott many thanks for your quick reply fingers crossed that the inward flight is either early its a redeye in from SEA or on time. I dont know how I missed that! My luggage be checked in all the way from DFW or do I need to recheck it in JFK? # 1 bundaburg Original Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sydney Programs: SPG Plt, AA Exec Plt Posts: 206 Minimum connection time (JFK) Is 1 hour and 40 minutes be enough for MCT at JFK? <p>Despite its reputation for being one of the busiest and maximum congested airports in the world, JFK minimum connection times might be surprising to novice trip. Should I go for it? Elsewhere in the world, it seems like a crapshoot. Travelling on the continent of Africa is a different beast. nice to see the voices of experience here, I'd guess another factor might be if the second flight is always operated by the aircraft of the first flight you might not have any issues. Would you adjust any of your time estimates to take into consideration the construction? On PointsPros advice my wife made a 55 minute connect in Narita. She cant get thru security but if we have to reclear anyways, it seems like we might have enough time to try to meet up and not feel stressed. Turned out it was right. Have fun..and EnjOY! Hi Josephine I think youll have enough time, but youre going to have to keep moving as fast as you can just in case there are any delays along the way. Just wondering time being limited if we told someone at the terminal that we had a time issue would we have a chance of being ushered to the front? Hi Anne you shouldnt have any issues at all without any checked luggage. ta.queueForLoad : function(f, g){document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', f);})(function(){ta.trackEventOnPage('postLinkInline', 'impression', 'postLinks-38743167', '');}, 'log_autolink_impression');flight, so all you have to do when you arrive at JFK is go through immigration, customs, get to T8, and then straight to security. I was just reading about the construction at JFK and possible bus service in lieu of Air Tran. PEK-MUC-FRA with 40 min in MUC despite the CA flight always being 30-40 min late) and I have always wondered how this works. Hi Brian yes, you will need to retrieve (and recheck) your luggage upon arrival at JFK. But yes. Hi Scott, thank you for this article! I need to transfer to Jet Blue to Jacksonville Fl with plenty of time allowed. Security clearance and immigration. AF rebooked me on a flight that arrives at JFK at 10:51PM and the flight to Paris leaves at 11:55PM, giving me 1 hour and 4 minutes to get from Terminal 4 to Terminal 1. Two and a half hours isnt super tight IMHO but youre still going to have to move as quickly as possible just in case theres a snag somewhere along the way. But arrival gate was next to departure gate so it was 30 secs to get from one to the other.
Minimum connecting time at JFK - Fodor's Travel Talk Forums I misread what you wrote and thought you were worried the rebooking itself might be a problem. @James, ah, my apologies. Is this doable and do I have to go through TSA again at JFK? You will also get your boarding pass at the same time. We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. No problem! * Will AA transport baggage? :-). @James "To find the MCT for Ethiopian Airlines flights I looked under 'Travel Tools' in ExpertFlyer.". Thanks. And running. Re: Minimum JFK Transit time - Intl to Domestic 1 year ago Save This is an unprotected connection, I would require a minimum of four hours and a willingness to pay the price. Hi Priscilla British Airways uses terminal 8 at JFK, and Delta uses terminal 4, so you will have to change terminals. I was sitting in the very back of the plane and it took a while to get out Well I gotta say, this may be a bit of a strange Information In any case, will 1h55 be enough? You will have to retrieve your luggage before going through customs though, so be prepared to hustle. There should be some sort of customer service phone number you can call where they can answer this question. My domestic Delta flight lands at terminal 4 @10.30AM and my international flight AirIndia leaves @12.30PM (i.e. 2 questions I wanted to ask you: (1) I heard that we go through customs in Montreal and therefore arrive at JFK as a domestic flight and do not need to clear customs when we arrive? . At least you wont have to change terminals that will save you a lot of time. Minimum connection times at the Can F Kenny Airdrome in New York cannot be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). 45 minutes on KLM in Schipol (AMS).
Hi what about the baggage? Having TSA Precheck will make a 1 hour and 40 minute connection easy. I say "managing" but it was more like "casually taking his time in that incredibly slow-moving way that some power-crazed airport officials have". It sounds like ADD is the same. Let get American writer Lucky! Most flights through ADD shuttle passengers by bus from the tarmac to the gate. I would love your input. Baggage Itll certainly be more stressful! Id book the 20 minute connection as long as there was another flight out shorty thereafter. Then there are some airports like Istanbul that have been so massive and inefficient, that even when Ive had a 90 minute connection Ive had to run to the next gate. Hi Emma its possible, but youre going to have to hustle. Hi Gerly since youll be clearing US customs and immigration prior to leaving Toronto, youll arrive at JFK just as a domestic flight would. Not entirely anyway. Matrix also lets you set both pad-connect and min-connect. I will be self transferring (with checked luggage) at JFK from an international flight at terminal 1 to domestic, at terminal 4 with two hours between flights. All you need to know is that yes you can check your luggage in at any Delta Sky Priority lane. I have never landed at Istanbul without having to use a remote gate and be bussed to the terminal. So you have nothing to worry about that way, other than the fact you arrive later than anticipated. Posts: 23,073 . Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. 15 fun and unique things to do in New York City. Hi Nicole your assumptions are correct! CAI, I don't trust transit/connections and almost always o/n at LeM. Unless you bought an unrestricted ticket, it's unlikely Delta is going to change your flight without charging a fee and possibly a fare difference. Youre welcome Jenny! I'd much rather have MORE time than not enough! Have you considered the 4:45pm flight from DAR to ADD instead (and ferry or fly cheaply from Zanzibar)? You have successfully joined our subscriber list. Ill be arriving Terminal 4 at about 12:30 pm on a Wednesday departing Terminal 1 (with a 1 hour and 35 layover) at about 2:25 PM. Probably why I wouldn't do this. - How much time should I budget for baggage collection and customs/security? On my inbound, I have a 90 minute connection through ORD again, NRT-ORD-ATL. I only have 1hr 50 layover is it possible? 46 minutes is enough time since youll be arriving and departing out of Terminal 4 at JFK. You wont have to leave Terminal 4 (its the dedicated Delta / SkyTeam terminal at JFK), so an hour and 55 minutes is going to be more than enough time. There is an official "minimum connecting time" for each airport. Hi Jay yes, you will need to go claim your checked luggage before going through customs (which will happen right after you clear passport control). ZRH, VIE, BCN) I'm quite comfortable to accept an MCT connection - because there are many flights per day and if I miss mine, being protected means I still get there the same day. A totally inefficient operation always. Hi Scott, Plus thats the last flight out to Singapore, if i miss that flight, hotel n food in Zurich will be so expensive and theres 6 of us. AA has a terminal 8 flight at 7:34pm.
Connection time in JFK for international-domestic flights 2 hours and 20 minutes is going to be tight, youll make it as long as you keep moving as quickly as you can. The customs and immigration facilities at this airport are extremely large and state of the art, but that doesnt always mean that its fast and efficient. Doable? Are these times only for travellers with USA passports? Also, be aware that youre probably not going to have a lot of extra time by the time you reach your gate in Terminal 4.
How to Plan Enough Time to Reach a Connecting Flight I traveled the world for 2 months after college. Eventually the aircraft arrived 40 mins. It doesnt really matter in this case, because the times for Offline or Online are the same. Would a 4h transit be comfortable without having to rush and worry? But what I am more worried about is whether the transfer time of 2 hours is sufficient from an overseas visitor.
air travel - What is the minimum time to consider with a connecting But I think that's pretty unique for Gates 45-48 at LAX. Then you've got to go on the all terminals loops (from 2/3 to 1, then to 8). Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. The worst time wasters are remote gates for widebody Jets. Seems like after reading all your other comments, I should be nervous? Have a great trip! Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. Making connections at the John F. Kennedy Airport in New York can be extremely calm and easy if you follow these steps: How about a domestic to international on separate tickets, different terminals, where youre picking up and rechecking bags? Hi Carole if youre flying American Airlines the entire way (DFW-JFK-LHR), you wont have to switch terminals at JFK. Im flying for the first time through JFK and Ive heard it can be quite stressful if the connection is too short. US airlines are required to take you to your destination regardless of connection time! However, it can take as long as 3 hours for you're soon off an international flight and you require to do a terminal change in order in making your connection. On my outbound, my connection through ORD (ATL-ORD-NRT) went below MCT due to a schedule change on my ATL-ORD flight. Youre very welcome Mandy!
Minimum Connection Time LGA-JFK - FlyerTalk Forums The worst time wasters are remote gates for widebody Jets. All this sounds great in theory and you should avoid <30 minute connections even domestically of course. Regardless if you're on a single ticket, or not, you will always collect your bags. Do we have time enough? Will that get them through security quicker? 3. Hi Alf! The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. Thank you again for your answer! I was just pointing out that despite what some people think above, it is very possible that Delta can issue both boarding passes and check your luggage through to the final destination on AA, with of course NYC since you always have to claim your bags and go through customs at your first point of entry in the US. You go through immigration, claim your bag, go through customs and recheck the bag right at customs. Then you have to check in, check your luggage, and go through security again. Thanks M4RKM, Riff M, Litsa and evening for your comments. I have done this a few times, even crossing between the Schengen and non Schengen zones. I am arriving from an international ITA flight at 6:55pm and would like to book a domestic American flight at 9:40pm. Hi Im coming from Barcelona British Air and then Delta back to PR how long would it take. I think we have to switch terminals, not sure, but I also read that the AirTran is out of service due to construction and JFK is offering a shuttle bus, do you think we will have enough time? Youre not likely to have any issues even with delayed flights. How many of the 330 million american's have you interacted with, that you're confident identifying any particular trait as "typical"? Customs and immigration lines can get long, so I would want a minimum of 2 and half hours. Thats assuming youre flying the same airline and dont need to make a terminal change. I was looking online at Star Alliance redemption options between Tanzania and Egypt via Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) on Ethiopian Airlines, and came across an itinerary that seemed oddly efficient. @ Jackie -- Minimum Connection Times are absolutely a thing in the U.S. 20 minute connections are routine at Addis T2. Departure time in Paris and no plane. I think youll be ok, but you will have to hustle. Im coming in at Terminal 5 and departing international at Terminal 1. International flight reaches JFK at 1855 with 2.05hrs before the next domestic flight. If you do, keep reading, because Im going to explain the process of making terminal to terminal transfers at the JFK airport below: The JFK Airport consists of six terminals. They are all separate buildings, connected by an inter-terminal train (the AirTrain). Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. U.S. airlines routinely allow 30- to 40-minute connections for domestic flights. Airport Minimum Connection Times: What They Are And Why They Matter, Im off on an extended trip to Africa later this year, and am booking the flights as we speak. Could not agree more. JFK is a hub for Delta, and they will have many other ways of getting you to San Diego without much delay. In addition, the air staff will also do their best to be accommodating to get you off the plane quickly because of your tight connection. You will actually have to retrieve your luggage before going through customs (right after passport control). Not having checked luggage will make it a lot easier for sure. +1 to Sean M - exactly the same experience. To use our mobile site, please enable JavaScript. I will be departing from Worcester on Jet Blue to layover(37 Minutes) at JFK in terminal 5 to depart to Grenada from terminal 5. Having Global Entry is probably the thing that is going to make this possible for you. I have TSA pre-check, but my husband doesnt. But since you wont its gonna be easy. I took eight intra-flights in South Africa and seven were tardy. With connection in Zurich involving change of terminals, passport clearance, i seriously doubt i could make it. Minimum Connecting Times (MCTs) are precisely that - the minimum possible connecting time for both a passenger and their luggage to connect between an arriving flight and their departing flight. Consider allowing at least 60 to 90 minutes for a U.S. domestic connection, and at least two hours for an international connection. Join Date: Feb 2004. There is also an earlier afternoon ZNZ-ADD flight (this particular flight ET 822 only runs on weekends while the earlier flight runs daily with some days combined with JRO) which would have a longer connection if someone really wanted to play it safe. Landing from Milan at JFK at 6:55pm; I want to book a flight from JFK to Miami (final destination) thats at 8:30pm.is that cutting it way too close?? Get boarding pass beforehand The one thing that stuck out to me is sending your parents FRA-MAD-EDI. Hi Scott, What are the required steps/process I need to take during the layover time in case you suggest the 12:37 pm flight? Take it somewhere else please. You wont have any issues if your inbound flight is on time. Not only that, its likely to get you sent to secondary screening since abandoning luggage is not something ordinary people do. Yes, you will have to exit Terminal 1 when you arrive at JFK and then take the train over to Terminal 4.
Adequate layover time to get thru customs - Rick Steves The examples will show how itineraries should build under the new mandate. If you do have luggage to check (and it wont be transferred to your next flight automatically), an hour and 34 minutes wont be enough time. Will be arriving and departing from Terminal 8 at JFK and its all part of the same ticket under AA. Addis can be very efficient, if you get lucky and arrive at a proper gate on the terminal you just walk to the next gate, youre already past security. Theyll probably start boarding your flight to Athens 45 minutes before departure. Love this! Hi Leyi youre very welcome! The flight from TPA to JFK is on Delta and the flight from JFK to Paris is on AirFrance. I have a return flight from Raleigh NC JFK LHR. ET is a perfectly decent airline, and a simple rebooking a missed connection wouldnt be an issue at all. I wouldnt worry about it though, because without checked luggage, youll have the time youll need to make the connection without issues IMHO. Thanks so much in advance for your response! Youre going to have to hustle in that case! As it was a single ticket through the same airline I didn't worry too much. It took some careful planning, though, to optimize every single step of the way and cut down of idle waiting times. Regarding MCTs, I have an upcoming trip that had schedule changes and violated MCTs both ways, through ORD. I only have a 2hr 40m layover. I think its very possible and most likely very easy. @Ole -- agreed that Jackie's reply is myopic and ignorant.
How to pull off a short flight connection, and when to give yourself Clearly another posting by a foreigner. I am flying Toronto JFK with Delta. Good luck! Yes, there is an airside bus that runs between Terminal 5 (JetBlue) and Terminal 8 (American). Sure you might be "protected" and put on the next flight butyou might also be stuck there for a day or whatever depending on the route. Less than 40 minutes, which as I understand is doable but I was not comfortable with possibly losing my first day in Japan if the flight from ATL was delayed. I suspect they had planned it all along. The free ITA Matrix site has an unusual feature of pad-connect of XYZ minutes that only returns results with connection times of at least MCT+XYZ (only available as manual codes instead of GUI boxes). You could probably pull it off, but I can guarantee that itll be a stressful experience. I have a 2h:33m connection in JFK to my next flight, which is New York So Paulo which i am flyig LATAM. The problem is if you have a longer layover in this scenario lounges and restaurants are before security, you walk out after security. Simple, but not so simple. Most helpful, Scott! By the way, while I still have your attention. We have 50 minutes. I think KE lands in T1 and DL is in T4. My problem would be the reliability of Ethiopian being on time though. Thanks. With connection in Zurich involving change of terminals, passport clearance, i seriously doubt i could make it. My flight arrrives JFK at 2:50 PM and next one departs at 4:30 PM (international). Hey juemin:-) Definitely go for the 4 hour spread! Airlines usually allow you four hours or more maximum connecting . Explain that the connection they sold you does not meet the MCT set by the operating airline, and they should rebook you onto a later flight because they will be aware of the ramifications that sending you off with an illegal connection may have. For example, if you were flying from San Francisco to Los Angeles, connecting there to Tokyo, this would be a domestic flight, connecting to an international flight, so a D/I connection. Im planning my first international flight of my adult life, so its been a little overwhelming . The record is HNL-LAX-JFK which was 35 mins (IIRC) but then the inbound was delayed and we ended up with about 10 mins. Minimum Connection Time LGA-JFK Register Jun 2, 23, 5:54 pm FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides Last edit by: aztimm This thread is intended to discuss specific AA-->AA flights with connections between LGA and JFK. Most US carriers have a ticketing agreement between them - they dont have to be in the same alliance to do this for you. Please check the terminal information of your airline. You can meet them at the arrivals area in T4. Scott, If you have booked the two flights separately you are out of luck unfortunately. Anyways, now I find out they were under my nose on ExpertFlyer all along. Limited flights to Greece. JFK minimum connection times (what you can realistically expect). (2) I saw somewhere that Delta was in Terminal 2 for domestic flights and in Terminal 4 for international flights, but the JFK website shows that terminal 2 doesnt exist anymore and that Delta is now in Terminal 4 only. Minimum Connection Times Connecting in a foreign airport (where you either change planes, or reboard the same plane to another destination), is a very common way to travel. It is their responsibility to provide food and accommodation if you miss your connection because not enough time was allowed. Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). If for whatever reason you do end up missing your flight, dont worry. I was under the impression that most airlines have stopped "protecting" itineraries on multiple tickets regardless of whether the self-made connections are "legal." Hi Scott! @Jackie, so you are saying that OMAAT is only for american readers? Hi Scott We will have carryon nothing checked. Good luck! My connecting flight leaves out of T4 on a separate booking. 1 Answer. Hi Claudia! Study the terminal maps (and the location of the AirTrain stations) ahead of time! As it was a single ticket through the same airline I didn't worry too much. Upon entry to the USA, you will go through Immigration (up to an hour wait, though in Delta terminal, they've always been quicker than that for me), then you collect your bags. You are correct youll go through US customs and immigration before departing Montreal. I really comes down to the airport. Minimum connecting time at JFK. They know better than anyone about how long it will actully take a passenger to transfer between two of their flights at a particular airport (i.e. The only thing that youre going to have to do is go through security to get back into Terminal 4. As long as your inbound flight is on time, I dont think youre going to have any issues. So technically, no. One has to clear security again with a terminal change regardless of domestic-domestic or domestic-international, correct ? And if I make the connection, I arrive there quickly. If you are a resident of another country or region, please select the appropriate version of Tripadvisor for your country or region in the drop-down menu.
AirFrance and Delta disagree on JFK minimum connection time - What At this point, I think this is just something for travel agents to keep in mind when programming their flight-finders. The Air Train is the fastest way to move between terminals at JFK. Your flight into JFK will arrive just as any other domestic flight would, so the only thing youre going have to do is walk from one gate to the next. This is why doing international to international connections in the US should be avoided IMHO. Hi Sinar 90 minutes is going to be a bit tight, but as you said, you wont have to change terminals (so thatll save you some time). Out onto another bus, may have even been the same one, and back to, you guessed it, the Air Berlin aircraft next to the one we had arrived on. Always leave too much time to connect. I padded a D to I connection at Sao Paulo to 4.5 hours, but good old TAM (as was) then stole 3 hours of that on a late-running domestic flight. ta.queueForLoad : function(f, g){document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', f);})(function(){ta.trackEventOnPage('postLinkInline', 'impression', 'postLinks-38711989', '');}, 'log_autolink_impression');plane is late and you miss the 2nd one you'll have to buy a new ticket since the 2 flights are not connected at all! Very useful info on where to find the MCTs. AA change the BOS flight time, but B6 still thinks it is the same time more than 2 weeks after the change. They refused to change it to an earlier flight with longer transit time cos it meets the minimum requirement of 40 minutes. I've done Delta International Arrivals, and the longest it ever took me to get through to the AirTrain is 45 minutes. Hi Tim! Every airport and airline has different minimum connection time requirements. I got only 90 minutes, Amsterdam-JFK- San Diego. <p>Despite its renumeration required being one of the busiest and most clogged airports include the world, JFK maximum connection times might to surprising to novice travelers. If you dont have to recheck your bag, it is quite possible that 2 hours is enough, depending if you arrive on time (the long haul flights usually do) and you are quick to get through immigration and customs. I would want a minimum of 2 hours for this if it were me. Itll be especially easy if you dont have to change terminals. Whether it's immigration, Iberia (or any airline, really), or the airport itself, I don't think I've ever had a smooth experience there even when it was origin or destination. Walking isnt always possible unless youre feeling especially courageous and willing to walk through dark parking lots and sketchy garages. Re: Connection time in JFK for international-domestic flights. Didnt want to trouble you and went through all the comments but didnt seem to have my exact situation. Yes, because your entire itinerary is part of the same ticket, your luggage will transfer automatically (you wont have to retrieve and recheck it at JFK). The John F Kennedy Airport is in a constant state of evolution, and a lot has changed over the years (including the elimination and combination of some terminal buildings). @Sam - If he misconnected on this particular itinerary, there is an MS operated flight from ADD-CAI (which ET codeshares on) just a few hours later that they will rebook him on. This is the version of our website addressed to speakers of English in the United States. It will be a lot more challenging otherwise but you should still have enough time for it. Plus thats the Hi i will need you guys help. The only two connection options of the day were 45 minutes, or 6.5 hours. Because of how long it takes to walk to the AirTrain station in some terminals, I would want at least an hour and a half for a no-stress connection. Just walk from one plane to the next. The thought of missing a connection stresses me about badly, and I'd much rather sit in the airport lounge (or, heaven forbid, pay for a meal in an airport restaurant) than have to haul a** through an airport just to make it. Itll very likely be somewhere in the middle. We fly into JFK from an international flight into terminal 8 and then take off from a different airline for a domestic flight from terminal 5, am I correct in thinking we need to collect our baggage and then recheck it at terminal 5? A brief overview of the terminal layout at the John F Kennedy International Airport (JFK), The reason why short connection times are (usually) ok at JFK, Transfer time between all terminals at the JFK Airport. Id switch to a flight with a longer layover if you can! Also if I did miss the connecting flight would AA get me on the next available one as they are who the tickets are booked under via the travel agent? Southwest: At least 30 minutes if you have checked bags. Yes, an hour and a half will be cutting really close even if you dont have to switch terminals. Hi Scott, Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. Thanks for your terrific insights. It only gives us about 2.5 hours if everything goes smoothly. Im going to have some undesirable connections on this trip anyway, ranging from 90 minutes up to 22 hours. Enter in your airport, along with the inbound and outbound carriers, and youll get a chart like this: Their description of the difference between Offline and Online is confusing: Offline: Destinations we fly in connection to other carriersOnline: Destinations the Ethiopian Airlines directly flys. Anyone doe this tight a transfer in Terminal C. If it goes wrong, am I entitiled to hotel room until next day's flight. Youve got nothing to worry about with a three hour layover though. Ok I am now wondering: if I don't have any checked baggage, would a 2h transit time be possible? I have a KLM flight arriving at JFK from Amsterdam with a layover of only 1:45 before my connecting flight to Norfolk all on 1 ticket and no terminal change. You wont have the ability to go anywhere else. Your experiences may differ. If I didnt make the second flight it would be reasonable to expect that Ethiopian would then accommodate me on a later flight because I had booked a connecting ticket, though that can cause a separate host of problems.
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